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		<title>Par : Peng&#8217;s links for Sunday, 22 Mar &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1549</link>
		<dc:creator>Peng&#8217;s links for Sunday, 22 Mar &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ernst: HP refunds 520$ for unused software. There was just now way I wasn&#8217;t going to share this [...]</description>
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		<title>Par : Comprar portatil sem sistema operativo, podendo em alguns casos economizar 300€!</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1544</link>
		<dc:creator>Comprar portatil sem sistema operativo, podendo em alguns casos economizar 300€!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Suíça conseguiu-se obter a devolução de Imposto Microsoft sobre um portátil da Hewlett-Packard totalizando 600 francos suíços, cerca de [...]</description>
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		<title>Par : Uncle B</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why only one software pre-installed? Why not the free one, Ubuntu! Who gets what kick-backs? Business threats? Who joins in this Corporatist pack to screw &quot;Joe the consumer&quot;?  How can we break the &quot;Down-Town Old boys club&quot;, and get computers sold with NO software installed, so we can choose the software we want like in &quot;Free Enterprise&quot; Fvck &quot;Big Business&quot; They do it to you, all the time, right up the tender spot, no grease, no warning! &quot;The American Way&quot; ! Back-Door sales of Microsoft!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why only one software pre-installed? Why not the free one, Ubuntu! Who gets what kick-backs? Business threats? Who joins in this Corporatist pack to screw &laquo;&nbsp;Joe the consumer&nbsp;&raquo;?  How can we break the &laquo;&nbsp;Down-Town Old boys club&nbsp;&raquo;, and get computers sold with NO software installed, so we can choose the software we want like in &laquo;&nbsp;Free Enterprise&nbsp;&raquo; Fvck &laquo;&nbsp;Big Business&nbsp;&raquo; They do it to you, all the time, right up the tender spot, no grease, no warning! &laquo;&nbsp;The American Way&nbsp;&raquo; ! Back-Door sales of Microsoft!</p>
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		<title>Par : Somebody</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very inspiring story,
I plan to do the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very inspiring story,<br />
I plan to do the same</p>
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		<title>Par : James Smith</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1387</link>
		<dc:creator>James Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to see that someone else has the tenacity to bring an arrogant manufacturer of very poor-quality products to heel.  Especially considering you did it using their own legal documents.

I have never had any HP product that wasn&#039;t terrible and would never purchase anything from them in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to see that someone else has the tenacity to bring an arrogant manufacturer of very poor-quality products to heel.  Especially considering you did it using their own legal documents.</p>
<p>I have never had any HP product that wasn&#8217;t terrible and would never purchase anything from them in the future.</p>
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		<title>Par : HP SE RECUSA A CUMPRIR REEMBOLSO DE SOFTWARE!!! &#171; Hpxlinux&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>HP SE RECUSA A CUMPRIR REEMBOLSO DE SOFTWARE!!! &#171; Hpxlinux&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/ [...]</description>
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		<title>Par : Le</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

   I&#039;ve been reading up on a lot of this and I&#039;m thinking of also buying a new laptop and getting a refund for Vista. Maybe they&#039;ll learn from their mistakes. I&#039;m going to call tomorrow and see if they could simply let me buy a new laptop without the OS, this would definitely save time on their part as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>   I&#8217;ve been reading up on a lot of this and I&#8217;m thinking of also buying a new laptop and getting a refund for Vista. Maybe they&#8217;ll learn from their mistakes. I&#8217;m going to call tomorrow and see if they could simply let me buy a new laptop without the OS, this would definitely save time on their part as well.</p>
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		<title>Par : Awesome</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, good to hear that people are doing something about this crap. I actually didn&#039;t know that you can get refunds for pre-loaded software (i.e. WinDVD and the like) so good to learn something new. I always find it amusing to read the responses of idiots that are opposed to this stuff. I don&#039;t understand why they bother, do they not know that this is fighting for their rights as well? Or do they just like being walked all over...

Again, congrats and thank you for this awesome write up and effort</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, good to hear that people are doing something about this crap. I actually didn&#8217;t know that you can get refunds for pre-loaded software (i.e. WinDVD and the like) so good to learn something new. I always find it amusing to read the responses of idiots that are opposed to this stuff. I don&#8217;t understand why they bother, do they not know that this is fighting for their rights as well? Or do they just like being walked all over&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, congrats and thank you for this awesome write up and effort</p>
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		<title>Par : ::Reembolso de Licença Windows:: &#171; ::Projeto de reembolso de Licença Windows::</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>::Reembolso de Licença Windows:: &#171; ::Projeto de reembolso de Licença Windows::</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HP acaba de devolver a um cidadão suíço cerca de 390€ em software que este não iria usar, uma vez que pretendia instalar nos dois portáteis, que havia adquirido a distribuição [...]</description>
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		<title>Par : jernst</title>
		<link>http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>jernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert

I&#039;m against censorship and thus approved your message anyway, but please watch your language when writing here. 

Now to your &quot;points&quot;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;went you decided to get that computer then you agreed to buy the software too, weather you knew it or not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope, the licence agreement is not presented when buying the computer and there is no way to refuse it beforehand. So I didn&#039;t agreed to anything.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Its stupid people like you that tie up the legal system with trivial bullshit like this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again you are mistaken. If companies like HP were following the law and stopped to forcefully tie their products (computer) with a service (software usage licence), all this could be avoided.

&lt;blockquote&gt;you should have built a computer from scratch&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah right, now that you tell me it, building a &lt;strong&gt;LAPTOP&lt;/strong&gt; from scratch does make a lot of sense, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert</p>
<p>I&#8217;m against censorship and thus approved your message anyway, but please watch your language when writing here. </p>
<p>Now to your &laquo;&nbsp;points&nbsp;&raquo;: </p>
<blockquote><p>went you decided to get that computer then you agreed to buy the software too, weather you knew it or not.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, the licence agreement is not presented when buying the computer and there is no way to refuse it beforehand. So I didn&#8217;t agreed to anything.</p>
<blockquote><p>Its stupid people like you that tie up the legal system with trivial bullshit like this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again you are mistaken. If companies like HP were following the law and stopped to forcefully tie their products (computer) with a service (software usage licence), all this could be avoided.</p>
<blockquote><p>you should have built a computer from scratch</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah right, now that you tell me it, building a <strong>LAPTOP</strong> from scratch does make a lot of sense, does it?</p>
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